Craps Dealer Stick Calls

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Paigowdan,
I've heard the term but could you throw in some for instances of shooter's 'taking shots'?
Is that to you as someone attempting dice influencing?
Have you witnessed at a live game where you believed someone could influence the dice positively in their favor more than a random roll?
thanks, Petro

I don't want to answer for PaigowDan and I'm not a craps dealer, but DI isn't what he was referring to when talking about shot taking. Shot Takers are players who attempt to win, or at least not lose, through some deception. In blackjack it's the guy with the indistinct hand signal that could pass for 'hit' or 'stay', or any number of other ways players try to gain an advantage by seeming to do one thing and then claiming another.

I don't want to answer for PaigowDan and I'm not a craps dealer, but DI isn't what he was referring to when talking about shot taking. Shot Takers are players who attempt to win, or at least not lose, through some deception. In blackjack it's the guy with the indistinct hand signal that could pass for 'hit' or 'stay', or any number of other ways players try to gain an advantage by seeming to do one thing and then claiming another.

This is exactly right. Setting dice is NOT shot taking at all - like any of that other jazz. And I dealt a lot of dice. Past-posting, arguing calls for money, and even Card counting is arguably shot taking, as all those provably have an effect the house edge. But DI is nothing at all, nothing to swear, and is all okay, or should be 'that way' 100% okay - if done quickly and curteous on the game. 100% the story here as a dice dealer.
At the casino I worked at, you were allowed to set the dice, just as long as you didn't really slow down the game. I swear, I worked at the most reasonable, decent, and least superstitious casino in the United States. We were like, 'Yes, please set your dice, so as long as you don't hold up the game.'
ALL were fine with that. The crap tables drop tons of money and action, - and held 20%.
Dice setting was good & fine, and not a problem, where I dealt, - because the management saw that it didn't help or hurt the players, and our management was wise and decent to BOTH the dealers and the players. No floormen was allowed to be jerk or a dick, and those that were needlessly rude to players OR to dealers - were transfered to other properties, or fired as dead weight as 'detrimental to our warm sustomer service.' All players got comped generously, and were greated warmly and authenically - on a first name basis - by all dealers, as a rule. I mean, card counters who were backed off were only flat-betted, and THEN given a comp to the Fuego Steak House as an apology for it, - and were then invited to play dice and our CSM game.
'CRM' - our openly card-counting mathematican was totally welcome at Fiesta, was comped, and at at the worst just flat-betted, and invited to play ALL the other games - and I can testify to this! [So can he! just ask him] I - personally - was flummoxed by the politeness and tolerance of it all, - as a casino cop that I am. And boy, did we get customers and action. I do have to admit that!
I worked at a ridiculously 'warm and fuzzy' casino, - a casino that treated both players and dealers very fairly - just so as long you didn't crinimally cheat, or abuse dealers or cocktail waitress. If it makes them happy, and they buy in, then quick dice setting has NO EFFECT - no mathematical basis - Then this is GOOD. Set dice reasonably quickly, rub a rabbit's foot, pray to San Muerta, just keep the dice game moving and happy.
Except for one floorman, 'Louie,' - who came from old school casinos downtown, and was paranoid and superstitious about table loses and dice setters. He was superstitious and moronic as all hell about dice as a boxman. Just horrible to work with! I almost hit him with the stick as part of my stick calls, as did the rest of the crew! When the dice got hot, - and when the dealers were actually making tips, - he'd be muttering the Rosary, or moaning and cursing....'I'm gonna get fired, Danny...we're down $3,000 on this table - they're WATCHING me lose the money for the house, they're gonna fire me, Danny, TURN THE DICE!! AAAUUGH!!' No one took him seriously, and even the dice dealers talked back to him to stop his asinine 'sweating the money.' Especially me, although I like him in many other ways. it was like, LET the shooter roll or set a die for a moment, sheesh, if he likes to, - leave him the hell alone when he is shooting!! I came damn close to asking this old fool to tap me out on stick and run the game - if he didn't do a fill on a BJ game on the other end of the pit!
He was told many times to not sweat the money, to allow crap players take a moment to set the dice, to not turn the dice when on box if the table was hot, - and to not tell his dealers 'your losing money on MY crap table, - and I'll send you to Roulette if you sing!' Hector and Bill were like, 'Louie, you're pissing off players and dealers, - and you are COSTING US MONEY BY SWEATING THE MONEY, AND PISSING OFF PLAYERS AND DEALERS, FOR NO FUCKING REASON, - AND WE DON'T LIKE IT.'
The day Louie turned 62 and retired, there was no party, no nothing, and he never was seen again at the Fiesta - or ANY stations property. As far as I know, he wasn't seen in Las Vegas. He had money and property, and he LEFT the business - practically on demand at the end. He was about as knowledgable, as pleasant, and as productive in his gaming work as a ghost in his last ten years of a 40 year career, because he trusted superstition instead of mathematics and reasonable business practices. [Now, card counting CAN beat the house; DI cannot].
This is to say, because he feared that dice setting worked, and by turning the dice on players, and by saying the Rosary under his breath - when the dice got hot - he pissed off crap players - who ARE our very business and life-blood - and UPSET casino operations from the dealer level on up to an unacceptable level.
By all means - set the dice if you want, when they are in your hand, but just take a moment. IF a boxman so dares as to cry, bitch, moan, or say a Rosary - then GO TO another casino! And...write a note to the Shift amanager/Casino manager, that some old fool needs to leave your business.
You can take a second or two to hit or stand on 15 against a 10 in blackjack. And you can also take that moment ot two, to 'get the dice into your hands.'

i had a dealer once who called out the numbers as famous athletes jersey number. 'Air Jordan. dice came 2-3' or 'Pete Rose. dice came 1-4'. some weren't as well known as others, but he named them all. and some he had multiples... like using Shaq for the 3-2, instead of 2-3. i can't imagine the time he spent memorizing them all.

Do be careful about this, when I was in dealer school the instructor said they were working a deal with a local, famous running back and while it was OK to do it in class don't do it on the floor because it could have affected negotiations or been some kind of infringement.

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Hard 4 'The Bishop...Desmond....TU TU

Not funny, not clever, just annoying. I've got five dollars riding on that roll. It took me a long time to panhandle that money...I'm serious about it and I don't want no jokes about tutus or mumus.

Hard 4 'The Bishop...Desmond....TU TU

Bishop Muzerewa.

Shot taker... a player who tries to gain some undeserved break by lying such as falsely claiming to have had a bet down that the dealer removed or to having called his odds off or some other brazen attempt at cheating.
Dice Setter.... one of these infernal Control The Universe types that often take forever and a day to position the dice so that the axis is in alignment with the Stars. I pick two dice up and I throw them down the table... no song, no dance, no hem, no haw.
Sweat The Money... an attitude adopted by the House and telegraphed to the players by the employees that its OUR money and you are not supposed to be winning, only losing. The cheap floors who think a player who wins is taking money out of the floor's own pockets are the people who such all the fun out of the game.
Sure dealers can talk and crack an occasional joke or engage in some banter with that half naked cocktail waitress and the like. Its okay to make it a sociable event but don't try to turn it into a Party Pit. I'm there to shoot craps not pay a cleavage tax and shoot the breeze about some football game or football legend. Even if I only have five dollars on the line, I want to hear the number that was rolled, not some obscure sports code relating to it.

Good post Fleastiff! I really like the part about 'cleavage tax' lol, I gotta borrow that

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First of all, you should always tip the dealers at the craps table.

Before we get into everything else, tipping the dealers is just the right thing to do. These men and women work hard, are not paid the highest wages, are on their feet all day, are serving multiple ‘customers’ (players) at the same time, and count on tips to make a decent wage.

I’ve always tipped the dealers at the craps table, and have always been very generous in tipping them, but… I learned that I was doing it all wrong, and I want to share what I learned with you.

Let me explain what I mean by that.

You leave tips for the service you’re provided. At the craps tables, you’re counting on the dealers to take care of your bets, make sure you’re paid out correctly, and ensure that you’re having fun at the table.

Like me, you’re probably used to tipping at the end of your stay, no different than when you eat at a restaurant, you leave your tip when you pay the check. Your tip is relevant to the size of your bill and the level of service you were provided.

I used to do the same thing. After coloring up, I would throw a generous number of chips on the table and say “Thanks! That’s for the crew”. The more I won, and the better the dealers took care of me, the more I would throw on the table. The dealers are always more than appreciative as many don’t leave a tip at all.

Then one day, I remember it like it was yesterday, I was in Atlantic City and walked up to a craps table. I won’t say which casino I was at because, even though this was a bad experience, overall the dealers at this casino have been great, AND I was taught a valuable lesson that day as well.

As usual, after buying in, I start my betting off slow as I’m assessing the table. (I’ll talk more about assessing the table in a later post.) I also use that time to assess the other players as well, and I notice one of the regulars at the other side of the table.

He’s an older gentleman, great shooter, and I bet big when he has the dice. He does the same when the dice are in my hands too. I nod to him and he nods back. We always acknowledge each other, but have never actually spoken. He usually plays left of stick and I’m always right of stick based on our throwing styles.

Anyway, the dice come to me and I start my usual roll and betting.

I having a great roll, when all of a sudden, the stick decides he’s going to be a hero for the casino. I set the dice, pick them up, and he starts waving his stick up and down across the table.

I put the dice down and look him in the eye and he lowers the stick across the table. I pick the dice back up and just as I’m throwing the dice, he raises the stick in my way again.

I looked at him and said ‘You’re kidding me, right!’ He didn’t respond, but kept waving his stick every time I got ready to throw.

All I kept thinking was, I probably tip you guys more than most others, and the more I win, the more I tip, so why on earth would you be trying to get in my way?

When I finally sevened out, I colored up, still made my money, but left a smaller than usual tip on the table and started to walk away, still angry from what just happened.

As I was walking away, the older gentleman I had mentioned earlier, stopped me and said, ‘Buy me a cup of coffee, I want to teach you something’. Thinking that was odd, I still said ‘Sure, why not’. So he colored up, and we walked over to the coffee shop.

I bought him a coffee (black, straight up) and we sat at a table out of the way. As we sat, he said, ‘Listen, I’ve watched you play, you shoot great and you have a betting method that works, but you tip all wrong’.

I was flattered but taken back by his comment on my tipping. I said, ‘What do you mean, I’m probably more generous than most, and even more so when I win big’.

He said ‘Yes, but I want to teach you how to leave even more for the dealers without spending more money, and how to use tipping to work to your favor as well’.

He then proceeded to teach me the ‘right way’ to tip.

I want to thank him for the valuable lesson he taught me and want to share that lesson with each of you.

1) Tip early and often, not just at the end of your play.

• By tipping early, you let the dealers know you have them in mind. It keys the dealers in to your play and they’ll take much better care of you throughout your time at the table.
• This works especially well when you’re playing a different casinos where the dealers don’t know you or when a newer crew is on the table.

2) When you first get to the table and are assessing the trend, throw down a chip or two and say ‘Any point, for the table’.

• The dealers will of course be appreciative, you’re letting them know you have them in mind, but even more importantly… where will those chips go? The dealers have been seeing the trend on the table and they’ll place the chips on the numbers that have been coming out. This makes assessing the table and figuring out the current hot numbers a lot easier.
• Go ahead and follow that up with a place bet on the same number. This works more often than you would think.
• You also get some lower risk action going as you’re assessing the table for yourself.

3) Make the dealers a partner in your rolls. Throw down a chip or two for the dealers on your point, or hardways for them.

• Again, they’re more than appreciative, and they win if you win.
• They become your biggest supporters while you’re rolling and will help to make sure distractions are kept to a minimum.
• You’ll be surprised at the added level of help and advice you’ll get from the dealers. Not only things like double checking that you’re getting paid out correctly, but also letting you know if heat is on the way.
• Believe it or not, you’ll even have times when the dealers are cheering you making points. Why? Because they’re winning along with you.

The above sounds so simple, but you don’t know what you don’t know. That was me before being given this lesson in tipping.

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Now the dealers make more in tips because hitting a hardway gets them nine dollars instead of one, I spend about as much in tipping the dealers as I would have anyway, but now I have the crew on my side when I’m at the table.

Here are just a few examples of the benefits I’ve received since changing to this style of tipping.

• I’ve gotten credited for additional comps while I’m playing.
• No dealer, or stick, has tried to slow or interfere with my rolling the dice since.
• I’ve had ‘Come Bets ‘missed’ (left on the table) when a craps rolls.
• The same with ‘Don’t Come’ bets when an 7 or 11 rolls.
• There was a random roller throwing multiple 6s and 8s, I threw down $72 and said $36 6 & 8 as the shooter was throwing the dice. He rolled a seven, but the dealer said ‘I’m sorry sir, I couldn’t hear you, that was a ‘no bet”. Of course he heard me, so I picked up my $72 and place a $5 hard 6 and 8 for the dealers. (He just smiled at me because he knew that I knew.)
• On more crowded tables, the dealers will remind the players next to you to give the shooter room to shoot.
• I even had a time when I place a different than usual bet for myself and the boxman stopped the entire table just as a guy was about to roll the dice because he thought the dealer mis-placed my bet.

I could go on and on about the benefits I’ve received from changing my style of tipping, but the bottom line is.

• The dealers make more in tips
• I spend the same in tips as I always did
• And, I’ve received benefits worth tens of times more than the tips I leaving.

Try it this way and I’m confident you’ll never go back to tipping just at the end of your play.

In a future post, I’ll get into all the different ways you can tip the dealers while your rolling.

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